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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.08 17:52:55 -
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Mr Click wrote:Going to go with this fitting from Doctor Knuckles as have the skills maxed and is T1 frigate.
Breacher, dual masb or masb + saar and rockets, tristan can't break that tank.
Hopefully come back with with some Tristan kill mails.
This is the only fit/ship that has given me trouble in a hull tanking brawl Tristan.
Kite Tristan is not an issue. It's relatively easy to web/scram and kill his drones to force him off; he has no other DPS unless he's got rails and those do minimal damage.
The really dominant, frankly overpowered fit is the hull tanked brawler with ancillary rep, DCU and DDA. 100-120 drone DPS is enough to force off most kite ships - they usually won't have the tank to sit there and pick off your drones. Then you get another 70-80 DPS for a total ~200 DPS (over 200 heated) with dual neutrons or ions + neut/nos. 1400 hull hp + ancillary and you're looking at ~6-7k EHP and over 200 DPS, half that applicable at any range, out of a T1 hull.
T1 tackle (atron, executioner etc.) does not have the tank to stand up to the constant drone DPS. Incursus with an AAR is going to have trouble applying damage; a smart Tristan pilot will scram kite you with drones until your paste runs out. Cap boosted incursus doesn't work because you can't fit a web. Tormentor I haven't faced because they are not a terribly common ship. Merlin, cursus, rifter, and T1 tackle frigs lose. Navy ships should win (though a neut tristan can murder a comet) but you're having to go up in expense considerably. The dual tanked breacher is the only T1 thing I've lost to in that Tristan fit besides other Tristans, and I don't even fly it all that often. Against a pilot with more experience in that hull even a dual tanked breacher is a coin toss.
TLDR: brawl Tristan OP. Get one, or try a dual tank breacher. If you think an atron or executioner will tank 170 DPS (drones + null) long enough to burn through AAR and hull buffer, I want what you're smoking.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.12 01:07:45 -
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Yuigun Dhrull wrote:Phaade wrote:400 plate SAAR AB Web Scram Tormentor, scram kite.
Probably your best option. Tristan is king o' frigs.
Edit: The Breecher MASB / SAAR is a solid choice as well. Nasty ship. If the tristan is triple neut fitted (which is quite common) you don't want to be in a tormentor. Breacher is better as it is less dependent on cap.
Also that's gonna be slow as hell so the Tristan can just overheat AB and leave. Breacher is quite fast and can dictate range which is really important vs. a Tristan. You can scram kite from outside of neut/null range.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.12 19:24:34 -
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Andrej Vauban wrote:The problem with the Tristan is that you don't know what it is. Tell me how the Tristan is fit and its fairly easy to kill. The Tristan can be either rock, paper, or scissors but you just don't know which one.
It's exactly this that makes it such a strong choice.
Generally though I don't worry about MWD kite Tristans as they can be neutralized by killing the drones. Against an AB Tristan whether neut, brawl or scram kite, range control + good tank is required. Most T1 frigates can't do both; the breacher is one that can.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
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Posted - 2015.08.29 03:56:11 -
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You will not kill the drones off a good brawl tristan pilot before he kills you. If he's kite you can bit then he will just leave. You needsomething with equivalent dps and tank that can mitigate damage from blasters via scramkiting.
Breacher or tormentor. |
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